> > > > > Hi Folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have some free time this afternoon, as I started very early this morning
> > > > > at work.
> > > > >
> > > > > This thread is directed to the "Newbies" just starting into Visual FoxPro.
> > > > > I just wanted to convey to all of you new to Visual FoxPro that, do not
> > > > > be discouraged as you weed your way through this language. Although VFP
> > > > > is in my opinion one of the better languages to pick up.. at times you will
> > > > > feel yourself lost, this is normal with any new language.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please understand that this language is geared toward database applications.
> > > > > This language is very rich in funtions that are built into the core programming
> > > > > language... and to tell you the truth at times after 10 plus years experience
> > > > > in this development environment, I to have to frequent this forum for help.
> > > > >
> > > > > You will see posts from me to "Ken", "BL" and "Andy" and ask youself, "What in hell
> > > > > are these folks talking about".
> > > > >
> > > > > The learn curve never ends folks and I need ongoing assistance with real
> > > > > world applications that I develop using VFP. This is my site of choice.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a great promoter of this development language and had to go to extreme
> > > > > measures with my corporate folks in using this language in our application
> > > > > development. This battle I succeeded in and now in my company we have a
> > > > > hardcore group of VFP developers. This is a battle you may as well could face
> > > > > if you are in fact in a corporate setting. If you need any assistance in this
> > > > > matter search our archives on this topic, and if all else fails post a thread
> > > > > here in our forum.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now to the meat of this thread.
> > > > > This language is very rich in data manipulation. There are littely hundrends
> > > > > of VFP functions that can do what-ever you wish. If the function does not exist
> > > > > you can code a user definable function to do exeactly what you want.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your development migration personally will involve these key stages:
> > > > > 1. You will learn the basics of VFP in a stand-alone application.
> > > > > 2. You will then move onto multi-user applications using VFP and the stock
> > > > > VFP backend "DBC".
> > > > > 3. Somewhere in the middle of this you will be involved in sub-classing. This
> > > > > is a topic unto itself and required many hours to understand.
> > > > > 4. Finally you will end up "depending upon your company", interfacing
> > > > > VFP as middle-ware between the user interface and a backend such as SQL-Server,
> > > > > or Oracle.
> > > > > 5. Finally there is light at the end of the road and all of these concepts
> > > > > will kick in.
> > > > >
> > > > > The road is not easy, nor should it be. The road is definately easier with
> > > > > sites like this one. What the hell do I do when I have tried and tried and
> > > > > am coming up with "Zero"? Post a thread here and see what shakes out. I for
> > > > > one and the members of this site can only agree, when I am stuck and I mean
> > > > > stuck, I post my issues here. I usually get my answer within a couple of
> > > > > hours. Not only do I get answers, I get alternative options to consider.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no such thing as a stupid question at this site. Just ask and to
> > > > > help us assist you, post any relevent code you have difficulties with with
> > > > > your application.
> > > > >
> > > > > The power of anything depends upon knowlege. Well lucky for you, this site
> > > > > has core members that have a wealth of knowledge to share. The members give
> > > > > their knowlege free... gess what a novel approach!
> > > > >
> > > > > I could go on and on... but you know that I find this site moves past things
> > > > > that are just VFP relared. I have posted many threads that have nothing to
> > > > > do with VFP such as Exchnage Server issues, Active Directory issues.. etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to say that this site is primarily a VFP site, but my God we have
> > > > > such a diversity of members there is little we cannot assist you with.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have said it before and I will say it again. This site is my very
> > > > > first stop off in all matters.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if you are new to this language, or new to this forum; give us a shot and
> > > > > you will be amazed at what you can gleam from the members here!
> > > > >
> > > > > Pete from the Great White North. (Only in Canada, ay.) Over and Out ...
> > > >
> > > > I for one am eternally grateful to you guys.
> > > > Its my port of call at least once per business day.
> > > > In the main its to find new tricks.
> > > > I read the threads, and copy an interesting topic. I copy the thread header (so I can refer back to the thread, and give credit) and code into a prg file, saved in a FOXITE folder (of course) and play around with the code.
> > > >
> > > > I dont think I'd find how to code some of the things I find here in a million years.
> > > >
> > > > The snippets always work, or can easily be adapted to work in my app, and Ive worked numerous Foxite wonders into my software products.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes its to improve things I have in my programs already, but the really exciting things are to get the new code working, then think of a new feature where it can be applied - usually does not take long!
> > > >
> > > > Always, its another step in the learning curve, and always its so fantastic to rub shoulders with other enthusiastic Foxpro developers.
> > > >
> > > > You guys are my idols! Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > George
> > >
> > > George,
> > >
> > > I do a similar thing, but I created a table to hold the thread and message ID's. I can then
> > >
> > >
> > > SELECT * FROM FoxiteThreads WHERE cTopic LIKE [%]+ALLTRIM(lcSearchText)+[%] ...
> > >
> > >
> > > I ran into problems when my little stash of "Keeper threads" started to get fairly large. :) You would be amazed at how many great ideas you can find here!
> > >
> > > Dromore - would that be the Dromore of the song "Castle of Dromore" fame?
> > >
> > > Ken
> > > You shall know the truth - and the truth shall set you free. (John 8:33)
> >
> > I think I will have to do something similar, and thanks for the tip. That Foxite folder is pretty full of programs and now sub folders at this stage. I make a sub folder for each "find", so I can keep all the test files (forms etc developed as I explore the possibilities) in one location, together with the original program with the Foxite thread.
> >
> > RE: Castle of Dromore
> > I used to think the song was written about "my" Dromore as it has a very old castle, but I found out that there is more than one Dromore in Ireland. This web site claims that the song is written about Castle Dromore near Kenmare, Co. Kerry .
> >
http://www.kinglaoghaire.com/site/lyrics/song_74.html> >
> > Heres my Dromore (Co Down):
> >
http://www.gcs-internet.com/dromore/> > I didnt even know this site existed until I did a surf. I see my old employer has a banner ad (GrahamSystems).
> >
> > My Dromore is quite historic. This page tells the tale of the famous Norman Motte & Bailey
> >
http://www.goireland.com/scripts/low/xq/asp/areatype.t/areaid.3112/qx/area.htm> >
> > Sorry for going off on a tangent folk!
> > George
>
> George,
>
> My wife and I are making threatening noises to each other about doing a trip to Ireland. (Her maiden name was Murphy, so she has Irish roots as well.) When we finally get around to making the decision to go, I may have to call upon you for advice on where to go. Thanks for the links (we are both history buffs and the old Norman castle would have to be a Must See.)
>
> Ken
> You shall know the truth - and the truth shall set you free. (John 8:33)
Be sure to do that Ken. It would be lovely to meet up! I cut short on the info and links (so as not to upset Eric!! too much). I could have rambled on about Irish traditional music - a lot. Do a search on "fleadh cheoil" and you'll see what I mean.
I used to play the old jigs and reels stuff (Tenor banjo, flute, tin whistle).
My brother in law is a member of a Historical group - aw shucks, here's some more links:
http://www.lisburn.com/dromore-historical/Journal-1/journal-1-1.htmlYou'll see some articles by my Bro in law (Gilbert Watson)
From your signature you might want to look at this page:
http://www.lisburn.com/churches/churches-page.htmLisburn is 10 miles from my home. My bro. (John Kelly) lives there and he contributes with foxpro enthusiasm (well almost!) to the content of the above section of that site.
George