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 Pete Sass
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Subject: RE: Replacement Parts - LOL
Thread ID: 365549 Message ID: 365645 # Views: 45 # Ratings: 0
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Date: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:36:05 AM         
   


> >
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Read my reply to Tushar. Seems like if I purhase ink from 3rd party sources I null and void
> > the printer warranty over here. I checked with HP as well and you must use their original ink
> > or your warranty is compromized.
> > Here original ink bottles cost close to $100.00 not under $1.50.
> >
> > I hate to repeat myself, but for most clients I deal with they range from 20 users at the low end
> > to 300 network users on some larger sites. In some of my larger clients with 500-600 users,
> > you cannot put 600 printers in place, one for each user.
> >
> > Even for my business, since I cannot use non-original manufacturer ink and the ink cost it seems
> > over here is 100 times what you can use from 3rd party suppliers, I use laser printers.
> >
> > As a real world example I sold a client here a 8000 Pro Inkjet printer. The ink the client used
> > on their first refill was 3rd party ink. The ink plugged the Inkjet hose assembly.
> > The Inkjet although only 6 weeks old was not covered under warranty.
> > The hose and tracking assembly priced out at $99.99 US and the printer only cost $129.00.
> > Since the warranty was already voided, the client had to purchase a new unit.
> >
> > This point again goes back to my OP on the topic of replacement part pricing that does not
> > make any sense at all.
> >
> > Thread is getting off track here my friends. Let's just agree that in the case of Epson the
> > ink bottle usage it seems was only released in the east part of the globe.
> >
> > Maybe someone over here in the US and Canada can comment on this please?
> >
> > Pete "the IceMan", from the Great White North of Canada.
> > www.marathongriffincomputers.com
> > Home of the Canadian and US download for Chen's VFP C++ Compiler
> > http://www.marathongriffincomputers.com/VFP-C++-Compiler.html
>
> When I said "about $50-$60 per set (printer + fake-cartridge + filled-side-ink-containers)" I meant for almost any brand, not limited to Epson. The Epson offer is attractive but many people still opt for even lower-end printers and inks (but quality usually are good at least for the eyes), if inks break parts or make the printers' life shorter, so be it. They can afford to again spend another $60 even twice or thrice more a year no problem. Some still have to look for dictionary to search the meaning of "warranty". To others it means "unaffordable long wait for repair time", so you know, that's just what I'm saying,...
> Most people really don't print much anymore these days anyway as they become ever-more-paperless... For sales receipts or delivery docs many still opt for carbonized multiply papers which require dot-matrix printers.
>
> David
> ..
> .


Hi David,

I understand you.

My world is totally different. My company Marathon Griffin Computers offers the following services:
- Custom business cards. Usually printing 1,000 to 2,000 cards per order in custom full colour.
- Custom flyers in colour most times 1,000 to 5,000 copies per order.
- Prints from professional photographer demanding 1200 X 1200 dpi in high-def resolution on glossy
and semi-glossy papers in both 8.5 X 11 inch and larger paper formats. Generally 100 to 500 prints
per order.
- etc.

Here is an example of a recent photographer client's pictures requiring a run of 1,000 8 X 10 images
each:

NORTHERN WINTER IN ONTARIO WONDERLAND

SUNSET BEAUTY IN CHINA - WIDE VIEW

NORTHERN LAKES ROLLING

I asked the person here if I could publish these pictures here and he was OK with this.

So can you imagine trying to print these kinds of proofs off on an Inkjet printer taking up to 30 seconds
to print per page = 25 hours to print. Versus a high-end laser that prints each off in 1 second = UNDER
1 HOUR TO PRINT ALL 3,000 PAGES.
Don't forget my laser has 1,024 on board memory so once the print image has been past to the laser
printer's memory cache my computer is now totally free to do anything else.
Not only that, but my laser has an extended 5,000 page feeder tray, where-as a general purpose Inkjet may
hold only up to 100 TO 200 pages in it's feeder tray.

I think David we are talking "apples versus oranges" here my friend.

The end result is to purchase the correct printer for your task at hand.

I unfortunately in this so-called paperless world print a lot. Some months up to 15,000 pages
to 20,000 pages per month due to my business services.

Pete "the IceMan", from the Great White North of Canada.
www.marathongriffincomputers.com
Home of the Canadian and US download for Chen's VFP C++ Compiler
http://www.marathongriffincomputers.com/VFP-C++-Compiler.html

ENTIRE THREAD

Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 12/27/2012 11:39:49 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/28/2012 5:02:58 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Samir H. @ 12/28/2012 10:49:24 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/28/2012 11:10:06 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 12/28/2012 12:26:22 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/28/2012 1:59:48 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 12/28/2012 3:01:41 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by tushar @ 12/28/2012 3:31:22 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 12/28/2012 5:36:18 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by tushar @ 12/29/2012 5:21:17 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 1/2/2013 7:39:59 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by tushar @ 1/3/2013 12:24:45 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 1/3/2013 1:11:23 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by tushar @ 1/3/2013 1:33:21 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 1/3/2013 1:55:07 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 1/4/2013 12:39:17 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Samir H. @ 1/4/2013 1:37:32 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 1/4/2013 3:27:24 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 1/4/2013 3:40:28 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 1/4/2013 3:26:35 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 1/4/2013 3:41:32 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 1/4/2013 3:44:45 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Samir H. @ 12/28/2012 4:09:41 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/28/2012 5:09:28 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 12/28/2012 5:56:26 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/28/2012 6:11:30 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 12/29/2012 4:36:05 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/29/2012 5:00:54 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 12/29/2012 5:19:51 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/29/2012 6:55:06 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Pete Sass @ 1/2/2013 7:36:35 PM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by Fernando Alvares @ 12/28/2012 11:30:08 AM
RE: Replacement Parts - LOL Posted by tom knauf @ 1/3/2013 1:09:47 PM