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Subject: RE: The future of VFP
Thread ID: 344793 Message ID: 345017 # Views: 85 # Ratings: 2
Version: Visual FoxPro 9 Category: General VFP Topics
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:18:10 AM         
   


> > As stated the value of any of these alternatives is dependent on you needs, your clients needs, the OS you intend to use and many other considerations.
> >
> > Simon Cropper
>
> Thansk for your detailed reply Sir.
> I am learner of VFP and I really love to work in VFP. I've made few simple applications for my company like HR control, PayRoll and Voucher system. We have Windows Server 2003 on which I have placed data folder and I never tried SQL as backend. Client PCs installed with WinXP. The reason of asking an alternate to VFP was, I feel dishearted whenever I read that MS stopped supporting VFP and no more updation is expected from MS. When they are continuously updating their other products, why not VFP? is their any technical impossibility? I hear from people 'VFP is old fashioned and no data security..' when I tell someone that I'm working in VFP. It really hurts and that moment (although I've 10% knowledge of total VFP I believe and technically I really don't know in what sense VFP is behind from other programming lanugages). I wish if their is a way that VFP would become World's most demanding programming tool or if their is some language which have total VFP in it plus more so VFP learner can easily learn it.
>
> I don't want to leave VFP at all!
> But I strongly wish somehow VFP would become most famous advanced language. Please you experts do something for VFP (and for the people like me who want to learn vfp proudly)
>
> Sorry if any of my word feels harsh.
>


Your words do not sound harsh at all if you ask me.

> I hear from people 'VFP is old fashioned and no data security..'

As for the arguing, you could reply: "No data security" is plain wrong since VFP can connect to any ODBC/OleDB back-end instead of using its own DBC/DBF data engine for persistence.
And then turn around in order to avoid saying that VFP actually is a little old-fashioned - big parts of its core have originally been written 30 years ago :-)

As for the political claim: the entire Fox community has intensively tried to pressure MS.
As for the perspective: many newer languages IMO do have the advantage that they are actually easier to learn than VFP. "New programming language" often also means more consistent, up-to-date concepts regarding OOP, OOD for example, no or far less backwards-compatibilty compromises in the first place.
FWIW, when someone starts programming these days, I'm relatively sure that learning all VFP peculiarities is a much steeper learning curve than for example C#/WPF would have.

In my opinion, two things that turned out to be common basics during many years in very many development environments are OOP and SQL, so that in my experience people who are familiar with VFP's OOP implementation and standard SQL can relatively easily start working with C# or Java, as an example.



hth
-Stefan

ENTIRE THREAD

The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 9:23:41 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Gordon King @ 5/14/2012 9:28:45 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 11:14:41 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Gordon King @ 5/14/2012 11:44:01 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 12:12:16 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tom Saddul @ 5/15/2012 11:55:54 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by piet koemans @ 5/20/2012 3:38:58 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Martin Krivka @ 5/14/2012 10:38:15 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 12:01:17 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Vishal Anand @ 5/14/2012 12:17:18 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 12:20:58 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Vishal Anand @ 5/14/2012 12:35:59 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by tushar @ 5/14/2012 12:56:32 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Vishal Anand @ 5/15/2012 12:57:34 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 12:58:19 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Vishal Anand @ 5/15/2012 1:04:05 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mike Yearwood @ 5/14/2012 5:41:29 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 12:18:50 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 12:25:51 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 1:01:06 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 1:07:49 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/15/2012 1:55:04 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tom Saddul @ 5/15/2012 11:48:42 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tamar Granor @ 5/15/2012 11:02:33 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/16/2012 12:53:07 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/16/2012 3:16:34 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tamar Granor @ 5/16/2012 10:34:36 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tony Vignone @ 5/16/2012 3:44:06 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/16/2012 5:36:03 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/14/2012 1:00:10 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/15/2012 1:42:48 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Pete Sass @ 5/15/2012 1:57:02 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/15/2012 2:03:12 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by mk sharma @ 5/15/2012 7:21:12 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Jack Ryan @ 5/17/2012 1:31:06 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by tom knauf @ 5/21/2012 11:33:49 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Thierry Nivelet @ 5/23/2012 6:51:51 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Martin Krivka @ 5/24/2012 8:30:35 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/15/2012 12:34:57 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/17/2012 9:30:42 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/17/2012 1:42:32 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 3:47:00 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/17/2012 11:19:43 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/20/2012 10:52:48 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/20/2012 3:59:43 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/20/2012 5:04:25 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mohammad Irfan @ 5/16/2012 4:36:50 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/16/2012 4:29:01 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 12:57:29 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 1:33:22 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mohammad Irfan @ 5/17/2012 9:37:32 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 9:46:30 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Thierry Nivelet @ 5/23/2012 7:22:26 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/17/2012 10:18:10 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Paul Gibson @ 5/17/2012 3:18:19 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 3:52:51 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mohammad Irfan @ 5/18/2012 8:21:40 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 3:49:22 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 3:58:13 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 4:27:57 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 5:06:59 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 5:20:24 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/18/2012 1:00:27 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/18/2012 2:29:09 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tom Saddul @ 5/22/2012 6:22:26 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Thierry Nivelet @ 5/23/2012 7:20:00 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Paul Gibson @ 5/17/2012 4:41:10 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 4:53:14 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Jun Tangunan @ 5/21/2012 12:51:59 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Dan Baker @ 5/24/2012 11:23:41 PM