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Subject: RE: The future of VFP
Thread ID: 344793 Message ID: 345223 # Views: 111 # Ratings: 1
Version: Visual FoxPro 9 Category: General VFP Topics
Date: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:51:59 AM         
   


> Hi,
>
> It been a while since MS announced that VFP will be discontinued.
>
> In Australia, the most obvious impact was the instant disappearance of new development projects -- all new work was maintenance with the emphasis on moving to something new.
>
> My question or maybe thought is -- MS has thrown the source for VFP out to the community. Has anyone looked at this and considered whether it can be developed further in an open source context?
>
> One would presume that if VFP is built using C then the code could be adapted for use on Windows, Linux and other operatng systems. Has anyone investigated or considering this?
>
> I note that people are still developing add-ons and improving functionality but I presume once the core system is not maintained by MS any further that most people will abandon ship.
>
> I have heard talk about silverlight but again why "buy a new car" if their is a wreck in the front yard and it is able to be fixed.
>
> So the question is ... is their anyone actually looking into maintaining VFP source and building a new 'product' based on this code?
>
> Simon Cropper


This is according to wiki:


"For Microsoft to continue to evolve the FoxPro base, we would need to look at creating a 64-bit development environment and that would involve an almost complete rewrite of the core product. We've also invested in creating a scalable database with SQL Server, including the freely available SQL Server Express Edition. As far as forming a partnership with a third-party is concerned, we've heard from a number of large FoxPro customers that this would make it impossible for them to continue to use FoxPro since it would no longer be from an approved vendor. We felt that putting the environment into open source on CodePlex, which balances the needs of both the community and the large customers, was the best path forward."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_FoxPro

As for people abandoning ship, that is not entirely true to everyone. Nor I will claim that because some of us still has no problem promoting VFP on our end means that it is true to everyone as well.

But there are marketing strategies involved. I have seen ERP software that are made out of old PLs (much older than VFP) that are still very marketable for example here in PNG and other parts of the world. I believe, being an Australian you are familiar with these: Syspro, Pronto and Attache.


When I am working as Analyst in a bank, a co-manager introduced to me a herbal medicine called Vegilife. You can join under the pyramid marketing scheme or you can simply be a mere buyer. When I tried that stuff, it really does good things in my body health-wise. So I joined the marketing pyramid because it will be cheaper and started recruiting others myself not for profit that comes along the way but mostly because I like to share the great experience. And because I believe in what I am saying as it is reflected in my face and the way I applaud the product leads me to a lot of members that I was ranked 2nd highest recruiter for that quarter in North to Manila area; winning additional prizes along the way.

The one who recruited me is amazed on how I was able to convince people so he went with me one time to observe how I do things. And he saw that I don't even carry a pamphlet or anything except the actual product. I simply go to someone I know and after a few pleasantries, the first thing I ask is "do you have a pen and paper?" where after I started explaining things and drawing a sort of flowchart along the way.

My point, when trying to sell something, is that it helps in great deal during marketing/presentation time that you reflect absolute confidence with your product. That that feeling of complete trust be relayed to their own feelings as well. That is almost the same in everything we do including marketing our VFP projects. Maybe our VFP app is not the problem and instead our marketing strategies? Just to seed some thoughts!


However, if this is about seeking employment, then yes I believe that the demand for VFP developers are waning.

http://sandstorm36.blogspot.com
http://weblogs.foxite.com/sandstorm36

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The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 9:23:41 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Gordon King @ 5/14/2012 9:28:45 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 11:14:41 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Gordon King @ 5/14/2012 11:44:01 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 12:12:16 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tom Saddul @ 5/15/2012 11:55:54 AM
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RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 12:01:17 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Vishal Anand @ 5/14/2012 12:17:18 PM
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RE: The future of VFP Posted by Vishal Anand @ 5/14/2012 12:35:59 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by tushar @ 5/14/2012 12:56:32 PM
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RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 12:58:19 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Vishal Anand @ 5/15/2012 1:04:05 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mike Yearwood @ 5/14/2012 5:41:29 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 12:18:50 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 12:25:51 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/14/2012 1:01:06 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/14/2012 1:07:49 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/15/2012 1:55:04 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tom Saddul @ 5/15/2012 11:48:42 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tamar Granor @ 5/15/2012 11:02:33 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/16/2012 12:53:07 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/16/2012 3:16:34 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tamar Granor @ 5/16/2012 10:34:36 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tony Vignone @ 5/16/2012 3:44:06 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/16/2012 5:36:03 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/14/2012 1:00:10 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/15/2012 1:42:48 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Pete Sass @ 5/15/2012 1:57:02 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/15/2012 2:03:12 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by mk sharma @ 5/15/2012 7:21:12 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Jack Ryan @ 5/17/2012 1:31:06 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by tom knauf @ 5/21/2012 11:33:49 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Thierry Nivelet @ 5/23/2012 6:51:51 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Martin Krivka @ 5/24/2012 8:30:35 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/15/2012 12:34:57 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/17/2012 9:30:42 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/17/2012 1:42:32 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 3:47:00 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/17/2012 11:19:43 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/20/2012 10:52:48 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/20/2012 3:59:43 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/20/2012 5:04:25 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mohammad Irfan @ 5/16/2012 4:36:50 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Cetin Basoz @ 5/16/2012 4:29:01 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 12:57:29 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 1:33:22 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mohammad Irfan @ 5/17/2012 9:37:32 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 9:46:30 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Thierry Nivelet @ 5/23/2012 7:22:26 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Stefan Wuebbe @ 5/17/2012 10:18:10 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Paul Gibson @ 5/17/2012 3:18:19 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 3:52:51 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Mohammad Irfan @ 5/18/2012 8:21:40 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 3:49:22 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 3:58:13 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 4:27:57 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/17/2012 5:06:59 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 5:20:24 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Simon Cropper @ 5/18/2012 1:00:27 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/18/2012 2:29:09 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Tom Saddul @ 5/22/2012 6:22:26 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Thierry Nivelet @ 5/23/2012 7:20:00 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Paul Gibson @ 5/17/2012 4:41:10 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by claude fox @ 5/17/2012 4:53:14 PM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Jun Tangunan @ 5/21/2012 12:51:59 AM
RE: The future of VFP Posted by Dan Baker @ 5/24/2012 11:23:41 PM