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 From: Dan Baker
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 Dan Baker
 To: Bernard Bout
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Subject: RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone
Thread ID: 364657 Message ID: 365232 # Views: 66 # Ratings: 0
Version: Visual FoxPro 9 SP2 Category: Web Services
Date: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:56:35 PM         
   


> Hey Dan
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> You have not given the address of her blog. Please do.
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> Everyone who comes here falls in love with the place and want to return. Many actually do. I mean there is so much of space here with hardly 24 mil people in a land almost as large as the US.
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> There are whole dictionaries you can get that describe the Aussie way of saying things. And especially their meaning is usually different than anywhere else.
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> For Xmas we are having some "chooks", grilled the way my mum always did and a special stuffing unlike anything you have ever tasted anywhere. The kids will be given "lollies" and "bikkies" while they open their "prezzies".
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> Xmas will be a hot hot day and well all be in shorts and tees sipping iced beer. I'll "shout" you a "slab" if you ever come this side - maybe to visit your daughter after she migrates? ;)

Sounds really inviting, Australia.   Most of all, I like the people I've met. Seems like a high energy life style.   Fewer couch potatoes.

Send me your email address to dbaker @ technology-research .com and I'll point you to her blog.

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> >
> > OK, back to business.   I think Codagia is a great idea generator for techniques we can apply in VFP for the web/iPhone/Android apps.   50% of the charm of this tool are the cool icons and drag and drop feature.
> >
> > This week I started using an email newsletter generator called Constant Contact who has a similar on-line builder for creating newsletters.   At first, using the graphical tools seemed really fun and cool.   But after spending a couple hours with their graphical on-line tools, the user experience got old and tedious.  
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> > Where on-line web templates excel is in giving you the outline structure.   But beyond that, you're better off having VFP generate blocks of HTML that you can cut and paste into the on-line template.
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> > Hey, we can use the same stunning icons in VFP.   And VFP's mover listbox -- while not as sexy as drag and drop -- gets the job done very efficiently.
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> > I'm working on such an interface right now to create widgets for my web pages.   So let's see if I can deliver on that.   I'll share with Foxite when I have something worth showing.
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> > My other bias is that a cookie cutter app builder will deliver, well, a cookie cutter final product.   The really great web designs -- just like the really great VFP applications -- require a mastery of the underlying language and tweaking at the text coding level.
> >
> > Learning HTML and CSS has often been torture for me because I have a more logical than graphical brain, I guess.   But after 4 years and designing my third website, the web syntax is finally getting through my thick skull and I'm getting more comfortable with it.
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> > But I do know one thing.   I couldn't do without VFP: it's the automation engine that allows me to efficiently manage my website.
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> > So there you go, mate.   Dan B.
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> The idea here is to not re-create the wheel. I found this site by visiting the jquery mobile site and pilfered the link from their page. Sure you can do something similar in VFP but how long would that take? Here the site is already there, and the HTML design is downloadable for free for now. And it is mobile friendly.
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> All it requires is a little knowledge to wire in events and using Cordova (phonegap) I can compile the HTML into an installable app on my device. Saves me weeks of work there.
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> I have been fiddling around with webkit mobile stuff ever since I got my iPad 2 years ago and found that Apple does not allow apps to be installed except thru their system. The only other way was to write webapps so I did.
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> However now that I have JB'd my device I can install anything, so I write small utility apps for myself, in Xcode and compile them on my OSX VM and install them directly on my devices - I now also have an iPhone 4S.
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> If you think CSS and JS is tough, try xcode and see.
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> Anyway hope you and your family have a great Christmas. Cheers.
>
> Bernard

I hear what you're saying.   I'm not familiar with mobile apps, just websites in general.

There's expertise in Cordova that's essential to the getting the job done and can't easily be adapted using VFP or other approaches.

Likewise, I chose Constant Contact because it was an expedient and it only costs $15 a month to use them.   So you're right, replicating that in VFP would be reinventing the wheel.

My complaint with on-line apps is with the interface which is not as powerful as the Windows desktop.   But then again, a on-line application can work from any platform and there's no need to worry about IT.   That's a feature in itself and it's what's driving the cloud market.

Have a Merry Christmas, Bernard.   Dan B.

ENTIRE THREAD

VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by claude fox @ 12/18/2012 9:28:34 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Bernard Bout @ 12/20/2012 5:00:15 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Rahul Moudgill @ 12/20/2012 6:48:16 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Victor Espina @ 12/20/2012 1:56:23 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Manish Swami @ 12/20/2012 6:52:07 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Binod Binani @ 12/20/2012 8:18:45 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/20/2012 10:55:43 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by claude fox @ 12/20/2012 3:13:42 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/20/2012 3:35:37 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/25/2012 12:24:44 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by claude fox @ 12/20/2012 3:18:53 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Victor Espina @ 12/20/2012 4:54:17 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Dan Baker @ 12/22/2012 4:14:33 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/22/2012 4:49:21 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Dan Baker @ 12/22/2012 2:01:29 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/23/2012 10:07:39 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Dan Baker @ 12/24/2012 3:25:33 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by David Mustakim @ 12/25/2012 4:53:14 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Bernard Bout @ 12/22/2012 2:44:23 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Dan Baker @ 12/22/2012 3:56:35 PM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Bernard Bout @ 12/27/2012 1:49:40 AM
RE: VFP apps on Android and iPhone Posted by Rahul Moudgill @ 12/23/2012 1:20:11 PM