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Subject: RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen
Thread ID: 371937 Message ID: 373892 # Views: 78 # Ratings: 0
Version: Visual FoxPro 9 SP2 Category: 3rd Party Software
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:20:06 PM         
   


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> > Yes. I don't see the appeal, but I also don't know enough about the project to know what it is I don't know. There are unknown unknowns at work. :-)
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> > Best regards,
> > Rick C. Hodgin
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> One benefit would be future proofing... 16 bit apps won't run in a 64 bit OS today - 32 bit apps are supported for now.
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> When will a 128 bit OS be released / common? I don't know.
> Will it support 32 bit apps? I don't know this either... will it be an issue, or will appications virtualization be the norm..
> Will I still be trying to run VFP code when 32 bit apps are no longer supported... I fear that I will - I won't be retiring for another 30 years!

As much as no one can say with 100% certainty whether 32-Bit apps will be supported in 30 years I can say with plenty of confidence that they will be for at least 10 years probably more. The main reason is that the biggest software boom happened when 32-bit applications were/are the norm. There are millions upon millions of 32-Bit applications that millions of companies rely on every day. There is a tiny percentage of applications in comparison that are compiled to 64-Bit for reasons of necessity.

Microsoft themselves still recommend to end-users that they don't go with 64-Bit MS Office unless it is absolutely necessary. I don't know why it would be necessary to have 64-Bit Office but MS simply haven't got the time/staff/motivation to rewrite all their Office Add-ons for 64-Bit and that is just one of the reasons they have recommended that standard users don't deliberately purchase the 64-Bit version.

If MS haven't got the motivation to produce everything as 64-Bit it is unlikely that they will release an operating system that won't support their own applications.

And what motivation is there to produce 128 Bit operating systems using 128 bit applications? I doubt there will be anything on the horizon for a long while. I don't know the answer for certain, I doubt anyone does, so that is obviously one of Rick's and Rumsfeld's unknown unknowns. That one tho I am not worrying about.

I'm not saying that Chen shouldn't have a 64-Bit compiler, quite the contrary, I was one of the voices on here saying it would be a good idea to offer the option. I'm just saying that it probably isn't worth worrying about how we'll get our VFP apps to run in 20 years time because of 32-bit concerns, because 1) VFP will be long past it's end-of-life by then 2) there may be other reasons that either the VFP IDE or VFP apps (or both) won't run in later operating systems 3) will you be working in VFP in 20 years time given that in just 2 years VFP will be beyond it's support life and after that the only people who will care whether it works in any operating system is us, the VFP community?

I know many VFP coders are planning how they won't be coding in VFP in a few years time and I don't think for anyone the main concern is 32-Bit support. In my opinion 32-Bit apps are here to stay for an extremely long time simply because they are overwhelmingly in the majority.

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VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Pete Sass @ 3/1/2013 9:05:40 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rahul Moudgill @ 3/2/2013 8:58:29 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Martin Krivka @ 3/2/2013 9:37:49 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Pete Sass @ 3/2/2013 4:09:08 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 3/3/2013 3:26:59 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Dilip Kumar @ 3/25/2013 4:27:07 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Pete Sass @ 4/4/2013 11:19:47 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/4/2013 3:16:06 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 4/4/2013 3:45:18 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Paul Gibson @ 4/4/2013 4:55:21 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 4/4/2013 5:31:26 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/4/2013 5:01:02 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 4/4/2013 5:13:30 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/4/2013 5:15:36 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 4/4/2013 5:35:14 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Paul Gibson @ 4/4/2013 5:53:11 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 4/4/2013 8:37:37 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Pete Sass @ 4/5/2013 2:56:25 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Victor Espina @ 3/25/2013 10:11:10 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 3/26/2013 5:58:22 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Victor Espina @ 3/27/2013 2:08:20 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 3/27/2013 2:12:26 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Brian Walsh @ 3/28/2013 3:38:58 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Paul Gibson @ 3/28/2013 4:20:06 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Rick Hodgin @ 3/28/2013 5:15:16 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 3/27/2013 5:32:05 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Victor Espina @ 3/27/2013 8:35:12 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Leonid Lepin @ 3/27/2013 10:24:21 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Victor Espina @ 3/28/2013 3:08:31 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 3/28/2013 4:14:45 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Paul Gibson @ 3/28/2013 4:32:14 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Victor Espina @ 3/28/2013 9:36:31 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Paul Gibson @ 3/29/2013 10:11:17 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 3/29/2013 11:18:24 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Paul Gibson @ 3/29/2013 11:57:11 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Victor Espina @ 3/30/2013 12:51:49 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 3/30/2013 3:45:04 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Dan Baker @ 4/1/2013 4:19:37 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Josip Zohil @ 4/1/2013 8:45:45 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Dan Baker @ 4/1/2013 9:51:56 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Josip Zohil @ 4/2/2013 9:13:07 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/2/2013 5:19:15 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Josip Zohil @ 4/2/2013 11:34:36 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/2/2013 12:35:48 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Josip Zohil @ 4/3/2013 6:46:13 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/3/2013 7:58:58 PM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Josip Zohil @ 4/5/2013 8:58:40 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/5/2013 9:14:26 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Tom Saddul @ 4/2/2013 5:30:39 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Jack Ryan @ 4/2/2013 4:13:01 AM
RE: VFP C++ Compiler From Chen Posted by Garth Groft @ 3/26/2013 5:26:52 PM